And he in fact ordered me lunch because I discovered it for him lol. madness continue? Yeah, I've been looking for numbers and it's sick, the amount of produced bullets it's unknown, just estimations, and the numbers of destroyed stuff and casualties is sick as hell, totally insane. All 34 shells were fired at Newcastle. The President, said Ms Kelly, should learn from Israel's experience of "occupying the Palestinians" rather than buying its ammunition. likely has more resonance among lawmakers Once artillery or other units create a distraction of fire with the enemy, these same soldiers will return fire with relish.' This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. The first time incendiary ammunition was widely used was in World War I, more specifically in 1916. I've seen more than one source say that from the Civil War forward, supply units issue about an average man's weight in ammunition per casualty inflicted on the enemy. There wasn't any. ", https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/FliegerbombensprengungMuenchen2012.ogv. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that bullets are dangerous. He carefully scraped off many layers of paint and gingerly unscrewed the base plate. How many rounds of small arms were used in WW1? This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. never mind all the gutless turd chicken hawks in his cabinet and the VPs office. In the Iraq War of 2003 it was about 60,000. heavy-caliber bullets, artillery and mortar shells, rockets, and else { document.write(fontstart+"No major events today"+fontend); } Not only is the government buying a lot of ammo and I am not talking about the military. When a sniper fired at an American column, the soldiers sprayed the trees with bullets as if they were spraying for insects. But we have an idea of how many bullets were made, and we can assume a percentage were fired. Analytical cookies are used to understand how visitors interact with the website. By World War I, machine guns were fully automatic weapons that fired bullets rapidly, up to 450 to 600 rounds a minute. This operation went on for weeks. The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". I don't know what the lead times were for production but that might indicate a replenishment of reserves depleted in 1917 or a build up of reserves for a planned battle in 1919. and bombs, along with a substantial amount of old-fashioned pummeling NOBODY thought Saddam had anything to do with 911 that bogus story was left wing garbage trying to screw Bush over. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. dailyinfo[28]=' 19673 Leading Aircraftman Samuel Ambrose TICKNER Meritorious Service Medal No. What you seem unable to grasp is the fact that the US is really a One Party State which has 2 factions that bicker over the best ways to transfer wealth from the bottom to the top. Royal Flying Corps who died 06/02/1918 LIJSSENTHOEK MILITARY CEMETERY Belgium ' Applications of mathematics to warfare Upcoming changes to logging in - click here, GWF is free to use so please support the Forum. We need thread title police, they could be like a swat team from the dupe police force. greater force compensating for the smaller numbers expended. I believe I have read on this forum that 18Pdr expenditure worked out at one round every 40 seconds for the duration of the war. King's (Liverpool Regiment) Well in urban combat the ammuniton demand is very high and the handgrenade is one of the most usefull weapons there so no surprise but imagine all the trains which were needed to get the stuff to the front. Iraqis have complained The weight of soldiers and the number of rounds has gone up as individual rounds have gotten lighter but the ratio of weight to casualties has remained the same. According to Col. Dave Grossman, author of On Killing . 125 Panthers and 125 Tigers 1,138 tactical sorties (of which 734 were ground support missions in the battle zone) and 2,442 bomber sorties flown by the USAAF on 24 December, together with . Indian Merchant Service who died 11/02/1918 BOMBAY 1914-1918 MEMORIAL, MUMBAI India ' No one knows how many cartridges US troops expended during the war. Dont you just love it. What ammo did WW1 use? I wonder if those billions are the american billions or the rest of the world billions, that's a difference of many zeros. Yes, Russia did build 80,000 tanks in WW2, but many of the tanks at that time were incredibly basic. many of them women and children, being shot dead, or that exchanges A government report says that US forces are now using 1.8 billion rounds of small-arms ammunition a year. you might want to check out your saviors drug record, he happily talks about it in his book. Did the Japanese use wooden bullets in ww2? . strategy for purchasing as many as 2 billion rounds of small-caliber It's easy! Royal Field Artillery who died 10/02/1917 DOIRAN MEMORIAL Greece ' II that discovered that in combat only 15 to 20 percent of soldiers fired their weapons and an even smaller percentage fired to kill. In the 55th Division, I recall (or maybe a brigade thereof) soldiers in the front line were directed to fire a minimum of five rounds a day although whether this was to be target practice down a traverse (bit worrying if the CO comes round the corner unexpectedly) or risking one's neck firing over the parapet (I suspect the former) is not clear. than among those on the receiving end of the ammunition.". The small arms figure of eight billion (modern definition of billion = 10^9) rounds is astonishing. not to belabor a point, but I do hope the reader will remember that even stupider: invading Iraq in the first place. The New York Times recently reported that as many as 12 Russian generals have been killed in Ukraine. I find the story about the Grand Slam quite amusing but you have to wonder how it is that no one checked to see if it was live it boggles the mind :Os. Honestly? "How many evil-doers have we sent to their maker using bullets rather than bombs? Small arms ammunition includes the ammunition used by the sidearm, assault rifle, rifle and heavy machines. US forces have fired so many bullets in Iraq and Afghanistan - an estimated 250,000 for every insurgent killed - that American ammunition-makers cannot keep up with demand. This says that it took 100 bullets to inflict each casualty at Gettysburg, which would require 99.97% of shots in Afghanistan to be outside combat to have equal rounds per kill. During World War II it was estimated that 45,000 rounds of small arms ammunition was fired to kill one enemy soldier. are underestimating.". dailyinfo[26]=' Chaplain 4th Class The Rev. Middle aged, middle class, wish I was middle weight, I get very toxic when I play this game, seriously. to a July 2005 report by the Government Accountability Office, "[b]etween fiscal years Other uncategorized cookies are those that are being analyzed and have not been classified into a category as yet. Do soldiers like killing? For the Four good reasons to indulge in cryptocurrency! I know that in Verdun where i was twice they have free roaming sheep herdes for mine clearance, better a sheep as a human. As reporter Katherine McIntire Peters remarks, Something else? the educated guess of military researcher John Pike, the director of GlobalSecurity.org, U.S. forces have expended var mydate=new Date() I have just looked again at p 485 and the 13 pdr field gun is not listed either, only the 6cwt and 9cwt which IIRC were anti aircraft versions, so it looks as if the figure is only for those guns that were still in service and not those that became obsolete, for want of a better word, during the war. Thank YOU for the meal!! Sure you fool, Bush was a pilot alright, a real warrior whose most dangerous mission was flying over Houston during rush hour, that is, when he wasnt AWOL and cavorting with drunkards & drug addicts. German gunfire killed and wounded about 30 million soldiers. What does going black on ammo mean? Hiram Maxim, an American inventor, delivered the first automatic, portable machine gun in 1884, providing the template for the weapon that devastated the British at the Somme. All trademarks, logos and brand names are the property of their respective owners. Royal Army Medical Corps who died 22/02/1919 NUNHEAD (ALL SAINTS) CEMETERY United Kingdom ' How many rounds of ammunition were fired on D Day? Apart from the entire RAF Station, most of the northern part of the City of Lincoln, including Lincoln Cathedral, which dates back to 1250, would have been flattened. Ive never heard of anything so goddamned As a result the US is having to import supplies from Israel. hearing, Rep. New IRA powerbase just 20 miles away so why didnt intelligence flag possible attack? In 1917 it produced more shells and artillery pieces per day than Britain. It fires 7.62 mm caliber rounds at a blistering rate of 6,000 rounds per minute, or 100 rounds per second about ten times that of an ordinary machine gun, according to the Guinness World Records. British military Small Arms and ammunition. I am not an artillery expert but according to Statistics of the Military Effort of the British Empire during the Great War, by October 1918 there were only ten 4.7 inch guns (totalled across all theatres of war) and none in France and Flanders (p. 451). The significant role played by bitcoin for businesses! Royal Scots who died 16/02/1919 ARBROATH EASTERN CEMETERY United Kingdom ' Louis Ordnance Plant, the worlds largest maker of . These cookies ensure basic functionalities and security features of the website, anonymously. There it was rigged for demolition, and when it 'high ordered', it proved in no uncertain terms to anyone within a ten mile radius that the filling was still very much alive! What was the percentage of empty muskets in WW2? He did not kill anyone notable, nor did he do anything that his comrades were unwilling to do. The GAO report notes that the three government-owned, contractor-operated plants that produce small- and medium-calibre ammunition were built in 1941. by U.S. military forces in killing Muslims, he might well have weighed Though it lasted fewer than four years, World War II was the most expensive war in United States history. his words more carefully, because at least one thing has been manifestly Machine-gun teams would have as many as six spare barrels on hand. From 1941-1945 the Industry-Ordnance team furnished the United States Army and 43 foreign nations 47 billion rounds of small arms ammunition, approximately 11 million tons of artillery ammunition, more than 12 million rifles and carbines, and approximately 750,000 artillery pieces. Let's round that down to 250,000 so that we are underestimating. Every infantry company would create a 30 yard range immediately adjacent to billets when out of line and would be expected to have it in use during all training periods. Do You What Does it Mean to Bring Enough Gun? I'm sure the number includes rounds fired by ground troops, rounds from airborne weapons, etc. Communism, Socialism, Marxism, Fascism are all the same and were created, funded, promoted by the so called ruling families and their Banking Cartel. acquisition settled at about 1.8 billion rounds annually. During World War II it was estimated that 45,000 rounds of small arms ammunition was fired to kill one enemy soldier. The proof is that whenever it comes to wildly unpopular things the people dont want, namely, Wars, NAFTA & Bank Bailouts, there is always bi-partisan support that rams it through. When the hot barrel was removed, it was set aside until it was cool enough to use again. Apollo missions,space, anime ,history books. end of 2005, the Army had established an acquisition "Apparently when Lincolnshire County Council were widening the road past RAF Scampton's main gate in about 1958, the 'gate guards' there had to be moved to make way for the new carriageway. Hiram Maxim, an American inventor, delivered the first automatic, portable machine gun in 1884, providing the template for the weapon that devastated the British at the Somme. The report states: The Department of Defenses increased requirements for small- and medium-calibre ammunitions have largely been driven by increased weapons training requirements, dictated by the armys transformation to a more self-sustaining and lethal force which was accelerated after the attacks of 11 September, 2001 and by the deployment of forces to conduct recent US military actions in Afghanistan and Iraq.. Other estimates from military officials suggest that at least 20,000 insurgents have been killed in President George Bush's "war on terror". By the time of the Vietnam War, the U.S. military had sharply changed its training tack to condition soldiers to shoot first, think second. Of course, medium- and we are considering here only small-arms fire, to which in any realistic He claimed to have fired over 13,500 rounds with the machine gun and 400 with the rifles. On p 479 for SAA there are no expenditure lists but production from 1914 to 1918, including Home and USA, was. I dont vote for mass murderers and war criminals although its clear youve already admitted you do. I dont think anyone has all the facts except those in question. Interviewed in 2004, he said: It was definitely at least 1,000 men, most likely more than 2,000. It's easy to believe such a bullet falling at 300 feet per second could kill you, especially if it struck you in the head. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". And you should never trust them to tell you the truth. These cookies track visitors across websites and collect information to provide customized ads. Obviously not every single bullet was fired but I guess most of them were fired, now imagine all the bullets shot by the rest of the nations involved in ww2, all those bullets shot by the UK, Germany, Italy, Soviet Union, Japan, etc. Many of them were forced to stand in front of mass graves and shot dead. The 357th Fighter Group (often known as The Yoxford Boys) went to England in late 1943 having trained on P-39s. There are still several prepared mines on Messines ridge and Vimy Ridge if I remember correctly. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Analytics". Nowadays there is a Farmhouse standing above it. Colling and his colleagues bring in between 50,000 and 75,000 tons of them a year. . I could find out figures for other allies, but lets for now assume 12th from Germany, 12bn from Japan, 14b from other allied Europe, 5bn from Italy and other axis Europe. Royal Horse Artillery who died 21/02/1917 GUARDS CEMETERY, COMBLES France ' However, most BTR-50Ps were either unarmed or lightly protected by a 7.62 . During World War II, the Red Army lacked indigenous APCs to transport infantry into combat alongside tanks. -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRf2Gzf760g, WWII, panzer divisions, luftwaffe, u-boots, super props fiscal years 2002-2007 comes to about 9.2 billion rounds. The Baltic Sea is also still full of mines and chemical bombs and grenades, loaded after the WW2 on ships and they were scuttled in deep waters. Among the Izzo, executive officer of the ammunition program: "Can you tell To kill insurgents.". Doing a school talk tomorrow and need to know!! Anyway the numbers are sick, I think only food products were more produced than bullets in all human history, the rest of things can't stand a chance in matters of numbers. The other was Israel Military Industries, an Israeli ammunition manufacturer linked to the Israeli government, which produces the bulk of weapons and ordnance for the Israeli Defence Force. 9 How many bullets were fired in the Civil War? 5th Bde. We could kill one enemy for every 50,000 rounds. From June 1942 to April 20, 1944 when the contract ended, Chryslers Evansville arsenal produced 96 percent of the militarys .45 caliber cartridges: 3,264,281,914 rounds. US forces have fired so many bullets in Iraq and Afghanistan - an estimated 250,000 for every insurgent killed - that American ammunition-makers cannot keep up with demand. Most soldiers don't enjoy killing, although certainly there are some who do. Technically speaking, there was nothing significant about what Thomas did. The Japanese used a copy of the Schiessbecher, called the Type 2, to fire anti-tank grenades. Russian occupying forces have already lost 31,900 of their troops, as well . ammunition expenditure had increased four-fold to 100,000 rounds per soldier; in the Vietnam War, that figure had doubled to 200,000 rounds of ammunition for the death of a single enemy soldier." here: http://www.thegunzone.com/opentip-ammo.html Is this because more full auto weapons were used in each war? However, they were at war with everybody, so they had to produce more ammunition because they fired their guns more. The two bullets fired to assasinate Francis Ferdinand (German Franz Ferdinand), archduke of Austria, were the start of WW1. document.write; War was increasingly mechanized from 1914 and produced casualties even when nothing important was happening. In Vietnam the American military establishment consumed an estimated 50,000 rounds of ammunition for every enemy killed. Middlesex Regiment who died 17/02/1917 REGINA TRENCH CEMETERY, GRANDCOURT France ' var day=mydate.getDay() During World War II it was estimated that 45,000 rounds of small arms ammunition was fired to kill one enemy soldier. Though millions of dollars have been spent on upgrading the facilities, they remain unable to meet current munitions needs in their current state. JOHN THE BAPTIST, LAWRENCE AND ANN) CHURCHYARD United Kingdom ' Karl, you are a waste of time and energy! Is anyone really shooting thousandths of a bullet? Also are phosphor pieces washed ashore on the beaches of the Baltic Sea, sometimes missinterpreted for being amber, problem is the phosphor starts burning again after getting warm again in your trousers pocket. Any idea? Police records suggest that two bullets were found on the spot. Thanks murica :lol: In France there is still a prepared 35 ton mine or so which didnt blew up or was not activated (cant remember right now) which was set up under the German lines in WW1. var year=mydate.getYear() These cookies track visitors across websites and collect information to provide customized ads. Well Karl, if u hadnt acted like such an ass and attacked me we would not have had any disagreement at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5Wse0-kknY. Assuming 10k the number of bullets fired would be 24 x 10^10. dailyinfo[19]=' Lieutenant Colonel Harry LA TROBE CAMPBELL Distinguished Service Order, Territorial Decoration, Three times Mentioned in Despatches Royal Engineers who died 19/02/1919 BRISTOL (CANFORD) CEMETERY United Kingdom ' At a congressional Those huge casualties that the Soviets incurred weren't necessarily down to effort. residing in those unfortunate countries. In Vietnam the American military establishment consumed an estimated 50,000 rounds of ammunition for every enemy killed. A battalion out of line would be expected to construct a longer range if one was not available. Storys like that shake the faith in humanity, on how many levels must have gone everything wrong to install a Grand Slam as gateguard? the future does not appear to hold much relief for them, and many, of the demand for ammunition as much a blessing in bulking There is a lot of stuff around in the earth in europe and eastern europe, mines in africa etc. On 06 February 2008, in a report by CanWest ( Canadians fired almost five million bullets in . dailyinfo[24]=' Captain Denzil Robert THURSTON Air Force Cross Airship Training Wing (Cranwell). It is said that there are at least 5 fully charged mines containing a total of 166,000lb of explosive remain on Messines ridge :Os there was 6 but one of this mine went off in 1955, and these are just the British ones no one quite knows if there are any German ones and there are believed to be some other British mines at other locations which have yet to be found 8/s But yeah, thanks for spending the time to talk about this topic here on your site. One veteran recalled situations when 'many soldiers don't return fire because they are behind a tree or log under heavy suppressive fire. It is also interesting that the figure for Small Arms Ammunition for 1918 (2,724,282,000) was nearly double that for 1917 (1,573,864,000). Does the U.S. many fiscal measures for which mainstream economists can credit The latter Why do you feel the need to take the number out to three decimal points? Couldn't be? so goddamned stupid" as buying ammo manufactured in Israel for use According to US forces have fired so many bullets in Iraq and Afghanistan - an estimated 250,000 for every insurgent killed - that American ammunition-makers cannot keep up with demand. Where do Four different kinds of cryptocurrencies you should know. It does not store any personal data. It is thus easy to see how that average of six million rounds per day is arrived at. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. Producing a bullet that holds up well at high velocities is nothing particularly revolutionary, but Terminal Ascent has a hollow core and jacket skiving that initiates expansion on impact down to 1,400 feet per second, or roughly the equivalent velocity of a .308-caliber, 200-grain bullet at 1,200 yards. There's been many myths pushed about the soviet unions role in WW2 however. One of these was the US firm Olin-Winchester. First of all the GAO has no way of knowing how many rounds of small arms ammo has been used. "requirements" totaled nearly 5.6 billion rounds. Shoot 'Em Up. Guy H. Drewry of Army Ordnance. 55th and 57th Divisions 2 How many shells were fired in ww1 total? In France there is still a prepared 35 ton mine or so which didnt blew up or was not activated (cant remember right now) which was set up under the German lines in WW1. densely inhabited neighborhoods does not make for a safe environment. "The Department of Defense's increased requirements for small- and medium-calibre ammunitions have largely been driven by increased weapons training requirements, dictated by the army's transformation to a more self-sustaining and lethal force - which was accelerated after the attacks of 11 September, 2001 - and by the deployment of forces to conduct recent US military actions in Afghanistan and Iraq," said the report by the General Accounting Office (GAO). 15 to 20 percent Adjusted for inflation to todays dollars, the war cost over $4 trillion and in 1945, the wars last year, defense spending comprised about 40% of gross domestic product (GDP). Moreover, var daym=mydate.getDate() Machine-guns pre-dated the First World War by half a century and were in widespread use by 1914, but doubts about their role and effectiveness limited the use of machine-guns in most pre-war armies. Drewry told Keller the army needed three to five billion .45 caliber cartridges. Part of the problem was the military aiming doctrine. He asked Keller if Chrysler could make them at Evansville. ;) I really feel sorry for you Karl so screwed up by the dem crap and having smoke blown up your butt by Obama that you have lost touch with the real world. While it is largely unknown how many artillery shells were fired during World War II, an estimated number used by the Allies was 11 million tons of. Ammunition production for the 4.7 (from March 1916) was very limited in comparison to other natures and virtually ceased by May 1917, only 700 rounds being produced thereafter. Firing Squads (World War I) Same goes for bullets fired straight up from the ground - though it seems that it's undecided exactly how dangerous these are. -- 45,000 rounds During World War II it was estimated that 45,000 rounds of small arms ammunition was fired to kill one enemy soldier. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. At one point it was 300 million rounds per month, whilst in Spring 1917 there was so much .303 inch ammo in stock that 60% of all British ammunition production was for the Russians. 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The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. What was the largest U.S. base in Vietnam? A report in Manufacturing & Technology News said that the Pentagon eventually found two producers capable of meeting its requirements. KIRKY30 November , 2010 in Arms and other weapons. Yes, you guessed it, live 1944 explosive filling! The total has more than doubled in five years, largely as a result of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as changes in military doctrine. dailyinfo[17]=' Second Lieutenant George Ernest VINCENT Distinguished Conduct Medal 9th Bn. To be statistically accurate, and to be responsible in accounting, it should. 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You have proven you are a total idiot, your facts are the ideas of an active imagination that links into the Obama stupidity of Blaming others for their own mistakes. dailyinfo[4]=' Matrose Paul KURZKE Torpedoboot "G85" German Navy who died 04/03/1919 CANNOCK CHASE GERMAN MILITARY CEMETERY United Kingdom ' Obviously not every single bullet was fired but I guess most of them were fired, now imagine all the bullets shot by the rest of the nations involved in ww2, all those bullets shot by the UK, Germany, Italy, Soviet Union, Japan, etc. ammunition annually and brought in a second domestic prime contractor, Rifle Brigade who died 13/02/1916 MENIN ROAD SOUTH MILITARY CEMETERY Belgium ' This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. Hey you guys started it! this "distinction . Why, we might wonder, must this Estimating how many bullets US forces have expended for every insurgent killed is not a simple or precisely scientific matter. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. The greatest number of casualties and wounds were inflicted by artillery, followed by small arms, and then by poison gas. How many tanks has Ukraine received? While a few of those . Josephs_Piano Middle aged, middle class, wish I was middle weight We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits.