All endgame 2Handers have the damage potential to gain HH value. Pathfinder can help here. AP cost of Polearm actions reduced from 6 AP to 5 AP. That being said you can run these without Recover as well, so while this synergy is great, dont feel like Recover is an auto-pick for these builds. While Executioner suffers from many of the same problems as CS (see CS section), it is a better perk overall. Throwing Mastery is very good. Lone Wolf: Underdog is an easy pickIf you are trying to Lone Wolf then you are very likely going to get surrounded by multiple foes and will very much appreciate having Underdogs defensive support. Low HP backgrounds: 9Lives can helpSome backgrounds start with very low HP (sub 50). All forms of ranged units are very good at dealing damage and enjoy having Berserk, except for the Handgonne where the AP and targeting is clunky which can make it difficult to capitalize on Berserk gain. Armor and Forge are great, but if a character cant avoid incoming hits then hes going to get worn down quickly and die. 0% injury on first shot. Use Colossus if you expect your Nimble bro to be seeing danger. Furthermore, an enemy dropping to Fleeing status yields a morale check on his team, and an enemy dying yields another morale check on his team, so dropping enemies to Fleeing first before killing them helps increase the panic wave spreading to their teammates. This is not possible without Pathfinder (unless you are Athletic). So keeping a tight formation will help with morale. Personally I take it on everyone now and recommend it at least on some builds, but I also played the game for over two years never using it at all. far more capable of dropping your Morale. If high hp (90+) and average fat then nimble. Sunken Library requires a lot of movement through sandAlthough sand tiles only cost 2AP, they cost 6 FAT. They can be combined for additional protection against injuries and AID. A high MDef and good BF armor is crazy tough. Enemies have their respective perks/weapon skills in play. (To uninstall just remove the zip file from the data . Most agree that Relentless is a core pick on Fencing builds. Moving twice with a two range weapon lets you reach enemies 4 tiles away, and often being unzoned in the back gives Polearms some of the best flexibility to move around and influence the battlefield wherever they are needed. One, you arent overly concerned with burst damage and give Bleeds time to tick. Warriors have enough armor that most weapons will have a Fearsome window against them. Without Bags the duelist would be limited to two throwing weapon stacks and a melee option, or to one throwing weapon stack, a melee option, and a utility. Since the backline isnt zoned, they also have the freedom to move around to wherever the Rotation is needed as well. Since only very heavy armor can compete with Nimble, and it takes a long time to acquire heavier armor, Nimble is one of the strongest perks in the midgame. . It works great with the Handgonnes ability to hit six targets at once. Misconception Nimble is all about Initiative, Dodge, Duelist, Footwork and flankersThis is a trope. : 3v1: (3 1) * 5 = 10 surround bonus (20 with Backstabber). The formula is from the perspective of the defender, not the perspective of the attacker As per the above, Polearm unitsdo notget extra Backstab bonuses compared to a normal melee unit. Goblins are not immune to injuries, but due to their very small hp pool and weak armor they are already injured by almost any weapon or outright killed making CS of poor value against them, Overseers excepted. Low base HP and 3 stars in fatigue just mean that the stars in fatigue can't be used. The Arena: Some perks do better in small battlesYou often have Fat to burn so Adrenaline or other activated skills can do well. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Then on turn 3 you should go last because you are a slow Forge unit, meaning your Indom/Spearwall/Reach/etc holds through turn 3 as well, allowing you to get two turns out of one use of the skill. Then Brawny will apply after, rounding up again Ex. Pathfinder is recommended, of course. Goblins). Dodge is a compliment to proper defensive investment, not a substitute for it. Please refer to the Colossus section if you need a reminder on how easily Chosen can threaten Forge units. Score is average hits to kill an enemy from the test group. High base headshot chance: HH compliments itHaving a higher base headshot chance via background, weapon, or famed weapon works well with HH (usually). However, the prohibitive cost of Indom may entice you to seek alternatives. Realistically, you wont be using Lash every attack as it is too expensive, but you dont need to either. Then on your second turn phase you move toward them and attack and then use Adrenaline. Inflict additional 20% damage against targets that have sustained any injury effects. So I recommend not using it at all and just take the open shots you have and free up a perk slot. Once per turn, upon killing an enemy, 4 Action Points are immediately regained. Finally, battles are usually small and short so Dodge getting weaker over the battle isnt really a problem because battles end quickly. All of them. However, Pathfinder is so nice to have in rough terrain that it can be worth taking even if it has low value sometimes. Chosen calc reference, Crippling Strikes Added two bullets in Mechanics Added CS usefulness against Nimble enemies Updated Shamshir Use Case, Colossus Added note on Forge section regarding Adrenaline/Indom nerfs Updated enemy units with Executioner, Nine Lives Added analysis on new BD buffs, Bags and Belts Added mentions of new grenades, Pathfinder Added new terrain types Trimmed some content in the main section Added note about enemy units with Pathfinder Added Use Cases about camps, Adrenaline, and the Library, Adrenaline Revised Discussion section considerably as much of it was about describing the cycle Revised some Use Cases Added a few more Use Cases, Recover Removed reference to Adrenaline cycle, Student Added Manhunter origin Mechanics, Executioner Slight edits regarding new enemies, Bullseye Added Handgonne mechanics Fixed an error in the Hexe Use Case Added Anti-Gunner into Use Cases, Dodge Added points about Nomads/Distracted and Gunners, Fortified Mind Added Banner/Lionheart mechanics Revised main section slightly Added Fearsome Use Case, Resilient Removed reference to Adrenaline cycle Split Discussion section into two pieces and added a bit Added Relentless Use Case, Steel Brow Updated calculation reference link Mentioned Assassin armor set in Nimble section, Quick Hands Added mention of 2H Mace into Qatal, Gifted Edited comparison to Mind/Brawny slightly, Backstabber Added note on Manhunter origin Updated surround mechanics as per stunned/ranged enemies change, Anticipation Added some Mechanics Added/revised some Use Cases Revised some content as per the new 10 RDF minimum effect, Shield Expert Slight edits, mentioned Blacksmith Retinue member, Brawny Revised example numbers and expected value as per change to 30% Removed or revised references to Adrenaline cycle, Relentless Added new sections regarding the change to negate the wait penalty, Rotation Mentioned Smoke Bombs in the Use Cases, Rally the Troops AP changed to 5 Added Alp, Pathfinder, and Fearsome Use Cases, Weapon Masteries Added new weapon skills introduced in Blazing Deserts Added related discussion to new BD weapons Added Sword Mastery effect on Gash, Reach Advantage Removed references to the Adrenaline cycle, Overwhelm Minor edits, added Arena Use Case, Lone Wolf Added some Mechanics Trimmed main section and some slight edits Revised most existing Use Cases somewhat Added several more Use Cases, Footwork Added kiting Use Case Added Anti-Mortar Use Case Mentioned overlap with Smoke Bombs, Berserk Removed reference to Adrenaline cycle, Head Hunter Revised almost entirely as per the new effect, Nimble Updated calculations and references as per calculator changes Updated Nimble weaknesses in the Discussion section Edited Use Cases with new armor and attachments, Battle Forged Updated calculations as per calculator changes Added 350/350 calculation to show famed armor value Removed refences to Adrenaline cycle, Fearsome Revised almost entirely as per the new effect, Duelist Updated Duelists vs. If you use Recover then you can Berserk into it for greater efficiency. Chosen. These are all priority targets for Warbows so HH makes some sense here. 5 MDF for a perk slot is not super compelling by itself (certainly not bad), compare that to Dodge or Gifted for example, but there is more going on here. Unique weapon logic is in play. Berserk regains 4 on a kill. Archers are notoriously bad at low levels due to the high stat demand to use bows effectively. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Warbows: Increased consistency of first shot injuryWarbows with CS are a great way to tag multiple enemies early on in a fight with Injuries for later exploitation by Executioner bros (or the Warbow user himself). This is just about see what you can get a bro to with both nimble and BF. I said before that enemies arent stupid except that they can be. It is a strong perk, but the mindset that it is mandatory to succeed is incorrect. Kiting: Make enemies chase you across the mapPolearms are already a good kiting weapon due to the their reach and 5AP costs. This makes it an enticing choice for any bro that needs accuracy help which is most cheap bros without stars. I highly doubt your brother has too much skill and if you have high defense then Gifted is even stronger, potentially extremely strong. Costs 5AP and 25 FAT and lasts until the start of your next turn Mitigates both HP and armor damage taken Stacks with other mitigation abilities like Nimble and Forge Halves the damage earlier in the damage formula, before mitigation from 10% of remaining armor and before the headshot bonus. This is due to Indom doing an insanely good job at mitigating armor ignoring damage that no other perk can really compete with except Nimble. With the next attack you are guaranteed to hit the head if you hit. For example, a 100 RSK archer only has a 35% chance to hit an Ambusher at 7 tiles with Quick Shot. Your Polearm bros can be built to take some pressure if necessary, and you can protect your archers well enough without FW if you know what you are doing. Most backgrounds have an average base INI at 105. You dont want to half your damage output, right? + A good control tool for your tank units+ Can help protect weaker units from attacks Can struggle in larger battles where you are outnumbered Has to compete with other strong defensive skills Suffers from very rare but annoying inconsistency issues, Basic mechanics and control abilities Costs 4AP, 15FAT, and has a range of 3 tiles Target enemy gains the Taunted status until their next action. Be mindful of enemies who have waited (i.e. 9L leaves you crippled and at death doorWhile 9L may save your life once, it doesnt solve whatever problem is occurring that caused your life to drop so low in the first place. Winged Mace Double Grip only: 7.42 hits on average. Inner formation Underdog is usually only worth +5 defense, which can be beat by other perks if you are tight on space. Dodge can admittedly help you avoid some opening shots by enemy range units, but usually enemy range units will target your frontliners instead. They are not a package deal of course. Misconception I cant use CS because I want to fight Monolith/LibraryNo. It also doesnt do much in flat normal terrain because you can already move freely there anyway. Damage dealing builds will enjoy having it if you have the space. Farming Skill Guide, Stellaris: A Guide To Dangerous Technology, VA-11 Hall-A Achievement Guide (+ Endings, Easter Eggs), Fast Adaptation, Head Hunter, Fearsome and Overwhelm Mechanics (slightly outdated), HeadHunter Headshot Chance Gain Calculations (updated 8/13/20), Offensive Perks vs. The enemy will engage into you and there will be two of your bros to each enemy bro getting you 1 surround bonus. Using Colossus on top would still be good, just pointing out this interaction as Colossus is a good pick on Forge, so by extension if Nimble can be better then it is also a good pick. CS is not an all or nothing perk. Depending on how you want to play your Fencer, Underdog might be very good for you. A lot of perks can be boiled down to just stats.. An opportunity and financial cost that can set you back. It solves the problem of character with low amount of FAT who would otherwise struggle wearing heavy armor. Backstabber in this scenario is worth +10% to any of the 4 bros who can attack Blue, and not extra (i.e. This ends your turn 3 tiles away from the Chosen and he cannot hit you. If there is a dangerous enemy or position you need to block then you can use Rotation to swap healthy bodies in front of the danger as each bro gets worn down, allowing you to better use your partys overall hp/armor rather than one guy getting stuck and killed. You might be wondering why Im creating a perk guide when several already exist. If a frontliner gets into trouble then he can swap positions with a fresh backliner. There are a lot of weapons that can function for equal or less than that per turn. However, there is a specific use case for CS here and that is as an anti-Chosen mechanism. This can allow bros with poor defense but high skill to pretty safely Spearwall. A 5 MDF increase with a starting value of 40 is more than 3 times as beneficial as it is for a value of 10. Forge: Colossus protects against armor ignoring damage (AID)Colossus and Forge is not as straightforward as Nimble. Welcome to the largest Battle Brothers mod, expanding on nearly every aspect of the game to increase variety and replay value. If they can safely hide behind Conscripts it can be difficult to chew through the Conscripts to get to them quickly. Two-Handers with mastery can move & attack even when capped on FatigueUsing a two-handed weapon single target attack with mastery costs 12 FAT. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Avoiding attacks thanks to a high defense also helps save Fatigue: Related Perks Dodge, Gifted, Shield Expert, Relentless (via Dodge), Reach Advantage, Overwhelm, Lone Wolf, Underdog. Kiting enemies away from the group or baiting them to strategic positions and protecting more valuable team members from dangerous opponents. Attributes are character stats that affect combat performance. Legacy info and Blazing Deserts buffsFearsome was historically a weak perk, but received two changes in BD that addressed two of its biggest problems. For example, a Warhammer bro would be better with a Sword in a regular Unhold fight even if he has Hammer Mastery, so give him a sword for that fight. We have an 80% hit chance to an uncovered target and he moves behind a another enemy. This makes Dodge a great pick for Nimble builds using 2Handers. Duelist Rondel is rather poor and should instead stick to Puncture spam and leave the dueling to the Qatal. Nimble/ForgeSee discussion section for detailed thoughts on these. Overwhelm: You must outspeed your opponent to get valueOverwhelm needs to go fast in order to work at all and Relentless can help you maintain that speed. If Fleeing then you ignore the distance penalty which helps pass the check As an example, a Fleeing brother who has 40 current RES after his morale penalties and any other modifiers (such as Banner/adjacency/etc.) How useful is having more MSK here?if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'gamerofpassion_com-large-mobile-banner-2','ezslot_7',113,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-gamerofpassion_com-large-mobile-banner-2-0'); Gaining SKL is significantly more impactful to damage potential when your hit chances are poor. Provides +1 trade routes and increases the amount of gold gained from trade routes. The Longaxe/Polehammer are also good weapons to use with QH, particularly for units that are already picking up Axe or Hammer spec for their main weapon. All rights reserved. Witch Hut: 4 Charms per turn is very dangerousWitch Hut is a unique fight against 4 Hexe and a nasty entourage of Beasts and is one of the harder fights in the game. 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