Wow! It's a cultural flaw. Many here seem to think that suicide is a matter of choice as is the means to commit the act. I agree with Papigiulio there must be more gentle ways to do this. New Delhi: A woman jumped in front of the Delhi Metro train at Model Town Metro station on Saturday and committed suicide. Perhaps this is too 'clean' or 'romantic'. More like a temporary solution to a permanent problem steve@CPFC - "Compassion is free" and wasted on the feeble minded. No. Suruga bank provides a variety of services including onlinebank accounts and loans, speciallytailoredto foreign customers living in Japan. Why, no, of course I'm not being sarcastic! Reports suggested that the woman was accused in a case. Whenever something like this happens, there's someone whose job it is to clean up the mess. the point is that he couldn't sleep for a couple of days and said he couldn't get the sound of the train hitting the guy's head out of his mind..he still sometimes speaks about it. & yes some people can't help being poor, but Geez being poor is better than being Dead its a NO Brainer. There are hundreds of ways you can kill yourself without involving the public. would you agree that the definition of selfish could also be applied to the people here who are lacking in consideration for someone who was pushed to the ultimate extreme of taking her own life? Swiftly after, the couple received a letter from the Overseas Department stating they would have to pay to transfer hospitals - which sent Zdenka's mood spiralling, assistant coroner Alison Mccormick heard. If you really think about it (which you CAN do if you really try) I don't believe that she went down onto the platform, lined up the shot like a pool player, made sure there were sufficient people in the shop, then jumped infront of the train but if your just Trolling, keep up the good work. A six-month-old baby boy died Friday after a woman jumped in front of an oncoming subway train at St. Clair West station. These adverts enable local businesses to get in front of their target audience the local community. 'It was completely out of the blue, it scared me. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. I personally think the whole 'ganbare' and 'I must not make a scene' are partially to blame. And the number is increasing - the year before was around 30.000. There has to be a point where we can finally stop writing about the lack of awareness of and help for the mentally ill or emotionally unstable in Japan because someone with enough influence actually decided to do something about it for once. Pathologist Dr Rezan Guardi confirmed that the woman died from multiple injuries. So, after that experience I'm not so keen on excusing those people. I think it is wrong and low class to criticise someone who found that this was the best thing for them. As a result, you apparently cannot show compassion for this woman and want to judge her by logical measures. 35.000 last year, which roughly means 100 per day, which turn to be one every 15 minutes more or less Mr Wade asked the officer: 'I think your financial investigator looked at whether she had made a voluntary arrangement in terms of indebtedness through court proceedings. I place it on the society that failed to recognize the symptoms of her impending self-destruction (or worse, chose to ignore them), the cultural history of seeing suicide as a viable option to ending one's problems, and the lack of support in general for the prevention of suicide and the need to change this ancient mindset. The distressed woman leapt in front of a northbound D train as it entered the station near 86th Street shortly before 9 am, according to authorities. Going to the top of the building could set off certain alarm bells, so to speak, and someone might notify the authorities or someone else and the person might be talked down. But then, I think maybe people who do this are actually going for the effect - going out with a bang, so to speak. Sweater dresses are perfect for cooler weather, because theyre made of thicker fabric that can keep you warm even when the temperatures drop. "Why couldnt I help?" Too bad about the woman who died, but I'm glad for the four who apparently weren't badly hurt. A person contemplating suicide is so full of their own problems they have no room left to consider others. Detective Sergeant Simon Rees told the inquest that a financial investigator had examined Ms Redmonds circumstances prior to her death. A Great Western Railway employee, Anna Bodja, who witnessed the tragic death, said: 'I heard the fast train approaching, I heard the announcement and I saw the announcement on the board. This article tells us where she died but not where she was from. Those ads you do see are predominantly from local businesses promoting local services. I think I'd be sick to my stomach if I witnessed that. A woman in Mumbai's Kandivali area committed suicide by jumping in front of a Mumbai local train on Wednesday afternoon. Theres NO reason to be a coward & end it. Here is a bit of advice to those who seem to think this woman was selfish or a bad person. She took care.'. So yes, prevention starts in the early years. British Transport Police had declared the deaths a suspicious incident and an investigation was launched by their Major Crime team. The main thing is mental ilnnes should be seen and treated as any other illness. Don't you think that's part of the problem here guys? The victim was pronounced deceased at the scene. is rational - at least for now! Shortly afterwards, the mother and daughter were seen to enter Taplow station from Approach Road, where they remained at the station for around 20 minutes. It is always good to be prepared for this happening to anyone close to you as this is so hard and frustrating to deal with. HP10 9TY. She later made a number of phone calls, including one to her prospective employer and another 'fairly lengthy' call with her landlord, Hightown Housing Association. I'm sure they're terribly rattled, though. The inquest continues. A 35-year-old man allegedly died by suicide by jumping in front of a suburban train in Maharashtra's Thane district, a police official said on Thursday. The inquest heard that on New Year's Eve, Ghanaian husband Mr Yabani returned from working as a church Minister to find his two young sons alone in the flat. That wouldn't be selfish, it would be malevolent. I find it hard to believe no one witnessed it, as even the train conductor or people looking out from the front of the train would have seen the impact. "fit into society"?! Our DIY expert, Beth Allen, founder of HIP Chicks (Home Improvement Project Chicks), knows which tools you need to take on big projects by yourself. Reports suggested that the woman was accused in a case. . I have been late 3 times this month because someone thought to throw themselves in front of a train! I very much doubt that she took her own life so that people would miss their flights from Narita. ". According to CCTV footage, she was waiting for the train's arrival and at 3 pm, she jumped in front of a running train. Chiyoda-ku That's truly sad. No counseling available in this country? To his horror, later that evening Zdenka walked through the door, doused in diesel fuel. Following the pregnancy news, the mother-of-two decided she didn't want to deliver her third child at Wexham Park Hospital, instead wanting to transfer to the Royal Berkshire Hospital in Reading, yearning for a different experience from her first two births, the coroner heard. Four shoppers sustained minor injuries in the incident. 'When she was well, we never had confrontations, the only time we argued was when she didn't want to take her medication. Thank You. A mother who was behind on her rent and bills cradled her three-year-old daughter in her arms and jumped" on to train tracks, where they were both killed, an inquest has heard. For that you are lucky. bass4funk; terruble, you were late 3 times because someone ended their life. UPPER WEST SIDE, NY A woman died after jumping in front of a train at the West 72nd Street and Broadway subway station Thursday night, an NYPD spokeswoman told Patch. It is thinking like that that results in Japan having such a pathetic mental health system, and mental illness still having such a stigma here. So what's the point trying to analyze it? If you have a complaint about the editorial content which relates to papigiulio: "why do people consistently suicide by jumping in front of a train? This poor woman living in Tokyo had been through too much recently. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. Seems like a lot of people still need to learn about mental illness. According to police, the woman, Premalatha of Senthil Nagar in Urapakkam, had quarrelled . Put up the fences and legalize suicide so people will go for a needle rather than a train. A young mother was killed when she jumped in front of the train at the Wellawa Waraddana railway crossing yesterday (24) afternoon. No - she simply didn't think of the effect her action would have on others. Get real. Yeah, she was a big fail, wasn't she? This is amazing!! Man jumps in front of train yesterday 2022 . Another example of what happens when emotions are pent up through the pressure of life in Japan. As for the deceased person, as we do not know anything about her, it is a little early to judge her motives. All of you who said "she was selfish" knew her right? Surely "taking it out" on someone implies intent Smorkian? ( ) A. left B. arrived C. went D. returned. Woman killed by oncoming train in Bensonhurst: NYPD. Just another day in Japan. A smile or even some expressed concern, verbal or not, can go a long ways to helping ease someone's state of mind and break down barriers; at the very least, it will provide a brief reprieve for a troubled soul. The inquest was told that between 2005 and 2015 while living in the UK, Zdenka had eight admissions to hospital, with half relating to being pregnant or having been pregnant. Giving evidence at the Berkshire Coroner's Court in Reading, Mr Yabani explained that the pair moved to Slough in 2007 after he accepted the role of Minister at St Andrews Church and Zdenka was pregnant with their first son. We should sop thinking so much about ourselves, ok we are late for work, but a fellow human has died, their shoudl be pity for the deceased and their family not bitterness and anger.Humanity needs a lot of improvement. She died at the scene. 2. However, they returned just 12 minutes later at 8.17pm. Her movements around the station, going from one side of the station to the other, going down to the station and back up, was an unusual pattern of behaviour. 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EXCLUSIVE - Revealed: Carol Kirkwood's secret toyboy fianc - 13 years her junior - is a divorced police 'Digital antidepressants' to be rolled out on the NHS as health bosses give eight apps and web-based therapy Do not sell or share my personal information. If she'd had someone to listen to her - really listen - this might not have happened. Ms Redmond then brought Melsadie back over the gate to the public area of the platform, before returning up the stairs to the bridge over the platforms. There is a good deal of toing and froing.'. Who "died" and made you the queen of Japanese suicide ethics/morality? The Government try to hire more psychologists, but they are never enough; they address the symptoms, but eventually miss the root cause of the problem. Royal Mail worker Zdenka Yabani spiralled downhill after a scan of her unborn daughter revealed the news that her baby was 'small' and could have a facial abnormality. Whatever the reason, it is clearly a very selfish act indeed. 'Her movements around the station, going from one side of the station to the other, going down to the station and back up, was an unusual pattern of behaviour. Peopel, pleased educate yourselves on mental illness and what makes a person suicidal and how they are thinking. I wonder what happened ? Mr Wade said: 'Melsadie is pretty well behaved. There are other less 'intrusive ' ways to get to the next life - better to help people get over it though. Another deluded individual. We want our comments to be a lively and valuable part of our community - a place where readers can debate and engage with the most important local issues. The lives that are always involved, the innocent people that have to suffer because the person wants to go out in style. Of course, when you have spiralled into the pit of depression and all capability for rational thought has gone, it is not possible to see it that way. Her mom went crazy, started shoutingfortunately she stopped her, grabbed her hand and took her away. The posts that are concerned about the effect on others (the people who were injured, the people who had to witness what happened, the families that have to cope with the aftermath, etc - No, I don't think expressing concern for those people is selfish. Bereaving families are not only stuck with a funeral, but a huge bill for the suicide. We should be sad that a woman couldn't face anymore life and think of her family who have lost a loved one. If the person can redirect their thoughts to include others, they're more likely to realise that things aren't that bad and so less likely to actually commit suicide. Let us support getting your first car loan here in Japan. I have contemplated running away from seemingly insurmountable life problems through death at least twice in my lifetime. What if she was from Fukushima or near the area? That's gotta be the first time that's ever happened. Make it "trendy"??! Use your Facebook account to login or register with JapanToday. Also, Japan's teen suicide rate is among the highest in the world. 2023 GPlusMedia Inc. Police said Wednesday that a woman jumped from a platform into the path of an express train in Tokyo's Katsushika Ward on Tuesday morning, killing herself and injuring four bystanders. The woman, believed to be in her 20s, was seen lunging into the path of an oncoming No. Personal Assistant for Older New Yorkers in Manhattan, Holy Uproar After Adams Decries Separation Of Church And State, 'People Will Die': FDNY Fire Chiefs Argue Demotions Endanger Public, Winter Storm Dumps Nearly 6 Inches Of Snow Over Parts Of NYC. This happens everyday, another happy day in Japan. It's going to get worse before it gets better. I think most people sadly have had some kind of contact with mental illness and/or suicide by the time they reach "our age". At those speeds there's going to be a mess. A big tsunami like Fukushima every year. I was trying to get rid of her sadness.'. Newsquest Media Group Ltd, Loudwater Mill, Station Road, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire. Life is not just some inconvenience. 'I noticed a woman in a white jacket back away and start running across the platform.'. The court heard how the pair were tragically killed after being struck by a train having been on a platform that was closed to the publicfor around six minutes beforehand. The service is available 24 hours a day for people who are experiencing feelings of distress or despair, including those which may lead to suicide. Of course it is sad that she took her life in this manner but people are not rational whne they do this. As for the act being selfish - of course it is. It's a shame that because of her actions others were hurt, and with the Japanese being as they are, I doubt as well that others were traumatized by this woman's actions as well. Wrong signal. 1998 - 2023 Nexstar Media Inc. | All Rights Reserved. It seems like it is getting worse. But what she did was still selfish in the end, and many others are paying for and WILL pay for it. Nevertheless, that doesn't excuse the fact that Japan is in dire need of social support services, anywhere from distress centers for abused women or victims of rape to trauma counselling and psychiatric treatment. DS Rees agreed that Melsadie was 'behaving well' and did not 'appear to be demanding' until the mother and daughter were seen leaving the station. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Nexstar Media Inc. All rights reserved. "I have been late 3 times this month because someone thought to throw themselves in front of a train.". If anything, Government action should be to reach out to the weak to remind them they are loved. A woman died after jumping in front of a Brooklyn-bound L train Friday night. A police official familiar with the case said . 'Is it right that the outcome of that was she had an arrangement whereby she would be able to repay it down by monthly 143 contributions?'. Please show her and her family some respect. Take the quiz: How well do you know LIV Golf? To be honest I think this choice of suicide is partly due to the 'normalcy' - it is a very common way that the next person might follow the same way regardless of why or whoever else gets pulled into it, but also it could be like giving a middle finger or a big **** all you to society, because it was society that let the person down?? True, suicide is seen as selfish in many parts of the world, but most of those who think this (even myself sometimes) cannot even begin to understand what makes a person contemplate let alone choose such a route. It breaks my heart. Was she a member of this community? Everyone could feel and understand each other as much as they understand themselves and events like this would probably cease to exist. Because you have compassion for those who commit suicide doesn't mean you don't also have foranyone who has had to witness and deal with it. Yesterday Mr Yabani said: 'She kept saying 'this country doesn't want me' and 'nobody wants me here. She is at ease with mum, she is very patient, she follows mum and allows herself to be picked up.'. This site is part of Newsquest's audited local newspaper network. Zara's husband announces a two-month tour with his rugby podcast 'We met a Princess'! This individual may well have killed someone, or caused PTSD. Subsequently, a train slows to a halt on the tracks. I've seen suicide, lived with it from someone close and i would never blame them for the hurt it caused me and others. @BurakuminDes - I take your point, and I think anyone rational would agree with you, but I also think when you get to the point that you are thinking about diving in front of a train you are probably beyond rational thinking. When you are in a state of mind that jumping in front of a train is the best solution to your problems, you are in a very dark place indeed, and rational thought would be a struggle I'm guessing. OZONE PARK, Queens A woman was killed after she jumped in front of a train Friday morning, policesaid. Incredibly (or perhaps not so incredibly) another person did the same thing there today. It is six minutes after she places herself onto that platform that she places herself in the path of the train.'. Furious motorist is fined 650 after council worker paints disabled bay around his parked car. Somehow she wasn't up to speed, couldn't get with the program. By Jamie Phillips and Charlie Moloney For Mailonline, Published: 21:07 GMT, 15 November 2022 | Updated: 10:11 GMT, 30 November 2022. Police said Wednesday that a woman jumped from a platform into the path of an express train in Tokyo's Katsushika Ward on Tuesday morning, killing herself and injuring four bystanders. The unidentified victim was pronounced dead at the scene. Spend some time reading up about mental illness and especially depression.". It was found later from other CCTV camera recordings from the station that the woman escaped unhurt and got out of the railway station. Perhaps not by those who say, "well just make it legal". If you have a communicable disease it can't be helped and you need to get treatment, but it doesn't excuse you if you intentionally infect others. Awareness of the effects of one's actions on others yet choosing in one's own favor is a requisite of selfishness, and this woman, in all likelyhood, wasn't. The most difficult thing is watching your loved one getting worse and worse and being so helpless to do anything about it. But seriously here, counselling is available for those that look for it. Still, I was always somehow conscious of the fact that there are better options. She was, probably as a result of her morbidly depressed state of mind thinking and acting selfishly, ie without thought of others. But before that can even happen, the stigma in society of seeking help needs to be broken. Why, of course it is! (Thanks to Ben Orlove for the tip.) Mother cradled baby daughter and 'carefully jumped' in front of train, inquest hears. How absurd and heartless to say, "legalize suicide". EXCLUSIVE: Lanzarote sticks to its guns and insists it WILL limit tourists and move away from relying on Nearly half of British viewers believe ethnic minorities and LGBT communities are over-represented on TV, Is YOUR wood burner at risk? Firefighters responded to the station around 5:45 p.m., and EMS pronounced the woman dead on the scene, officials told Patch. They do not dwell on the horror and get on with their lives. Ignorant selfish act, saw this on the news last night looked horrible and the people that got hit by her flying body must be traumatised. The coroner said Ms Redmond was mainly carrying Melsadie during the time she was at the station, but was also seen walking hand in hand with her at various stages. I`m not a psychologist but that would be my impression. The only selfish people are those who criticised this poor woman. |. cleo - You're right. In this case I'd bet she didnt want anything more than what she got. 'Usually when she had an episode, the signs were lack of sleep, lack of appetite and being angry but she was normal before and after the incident,' husband Jude said at the inquest into her death on Thursday. Describing CCTV footage showing the mother and daughter today, Assistant Coroner Ian Wade KC told Beaconsfield Coroner's Court: 'Sadly, what we can see is that she gathers Melsadie up in her arms and jumps carefully from the platform down to what is known as the forefoot and is then struck by the train.'. Sorry to sound flippant, but every life lost is (often) another 3,4,5 scarred. Tel: +81 3 5829 5900 Because it's far more likely she ended her life for the simpler reason most people end their life - clinical depression. The eight-months pregnant woman bought herself a ticket before running across the platform and jumping in front of a non-stop intercity train which sped through the station at 115mph - instantly . Sign up for free Patch newsletters and alerts. isnt there a more peaceful way and less scary way to commit suicide? By Steve@CPFC - 100% agree with all of your posts on this thread. 3) While they are probably aware they will cause major inconvenience to the company and other passengers, and worse (as is the case here with the people hit by her body), they know they will be seen and found. The coroner said: 'At this stage, Melsadie is becoming rather frustrated and upset with her. She may simply have chosen this route because of her belief that it would both end her suffering and take the burden of supporting her away from society and/or whatever family she had. host: ITV boss who 'forced out Piers Morgan' Police inspect burnt items as hundreds of officers and volunteers with sniffer dogs scour parkland for From nightmares to candy cravings, the seemingly innocuous habits in children that may be early warning What you need to know about new number plates on cars being sold across the country TODAY. She then returned to the non-public access platform at 9.29pm and once again lifted Melsadie over the gate, but this time also climbed over the gate herself. You can reach out and feel 'connected' to the world and to people via the myriad social streams available, but that doesn't feel to me like real engagement. The identity of the woman is unknown at this time. All trains should be like Namboku line - no stress there. But having witnessed that (note that nothing happened) I felt really sick. I find it utterly ridiculous that people call this woman "selfish" based on the fact that she somehow, in her morbidly depressed state of mind Selfish? Gleams Akihabara 703 TOKYO. My life is more complicated>. I don't care what people say about Trains its a very painfull way especially if you survive. NOT everything is easy. @steve@CPFCJUL. I agree with steve@CPFC, there is no point trying to criticize this person. That's what this woman did, she took her personal problem and ruined a whole bunch of strangers' lives with them. It is terribly sad that the woman felt she had to end her life, and needless to say a horrible experience for the four people hit by her body. The . On January 8 2018, the husband took his two children to school and returned home to find the paperwork for the transfer of hospitals lying on the computer keyboard, before he discovered his wife had thrown herself in the path of a high speed train, tragically killing her and his unborn daughter. The Japan you do not see everyday up there in the mountains is incredibly stressful. If she were aware enough of her surroundings and were able to fully assess her situation, she likely wouldn't have jumped in the first place. i wish people who post here would Learn MORE about Japan Many Japanese still believe suicide is honorable and ends not only the suffering of oneself but takes the burden away from those around them as well. Fax: +81 3 5829 5919 Key Highlights. CCTV footage from the location shows a woman jumping in front of a moving train in Ghatkopar station in Mumbai. www.ndtv.com. CCTV footage from the location shows a woman jumping in front of a moving train in Ghatkopar station in Mumbai. . I wish they talk to me. Then again, she may not have been depressed at all. Just legalize euthanasia. A 28-year-old woman jumped in front of an approaching train at the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) Shaw Boulevard station in Mandaluyong City before noon yesterday. (Just read today's article about women running into problems with loan companies. If your going to do it don't risk others. She was taken to Mount Sinai West, where she was pronounced dead. The BTP officer said that the mother and daughter again spent time walking from platform to platform before climbing the footbridge, where Melsadie was seen looking 'distressed' and was picked up by Ms Redmond. Add Your Voice to CantaNYC, a Community Chorus! Leighane Melsadie Redmond had been taken to court over unpaid bills, the inquest at Beaconsfield Coroners Court heard today (November 15). Bihar News: - . So please don't accuse me of not understanding, I understand it all far too well. Or do you think it's more 'compassionate' to just tut-tut and let the suicidal get on with it? Meaning that I don't believe that Japanese people, generally speaking here, take things like this in the same manner as many if not most westerners do. Again, it's sad she did it, but you DO know that when a person kills themselves on the rails the family may have to pay the expenses for clean up and delays, etc., right? NDTV delivers reliable information across all platforms: TV, Internet and Mobile.Subscribe for more videos: https://www.youtube.com/user/ndtv?sub_confirmation=1Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ndtvFollow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ndtvDownload the NDTV Apps: http://www.ndtv.com/page/appsWatch more videos: https://khabar.ndtv.com/videos?yt I will never regret having her in my life.'. Then, it sort of happened to me as well as I was waiting for Keio line - a girl and her mom were sitting on the bench and as the train approached the girl tried to jump. The court heard Ms Redmond had a bill from her electricity supplier of 334 outstanding, a bill from her gas supplier of 638 and she was in rent arrears of 1499.37. The investigation into the woman's death is still ongoing, police told Patch. Young mother, 27, who was behind on her rent and bills as she struggled with cost of living took her three-year-old daughter by the hand and walked in front of a train, inquest hears My friends husband died last year through suicide. Bad decision on her part. She ended her own life. more than 34000 people kill themself in Japan every year, that is horrible! Reply. I know they are not in their normal state of mind, but still, if one wants to end his/her life it's better to do it quietly and away from people's eyes. If you are dissatisfied with the response provided you can Having been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, the court heard how Zdenka was not 'terribly keen' on taking her medication and following her discharge from mental health services in March 2017, she kept her husband in the dark and stopped taking it, despite advice. been late to work three times this week because of suicides? I like Cleo's comment about those contemplating suicide, taking time to get their affairs in order and as a ancillary benefit, truly sitting down to evaluate and think.
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